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Re: NDSU OPTS OUT?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:24 pm
by JBB2
If things don’t go as expected NDSU can opt-in and begin revenue sharing.
Institutions can opt in or out of the settlement each year by March 1. However, an institution that opted into the settlement and then decides to opt out will be liable for any agreements entered into with its athletes while they were complying with the settlement.
https://www.huschblackwell.com/newsandi ... in-the-air

Re: NDSU OPTS OUT?

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:46 pm
by JBB2
A concern of mine is discussed here among other impacts on college sports

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... 207121d794
Will this settlement lead to a college football Super League?

This has been the popular theory given the sweeping changes in college football the last few years, and this ruling would seemingly widen the gap between the major-revenue producing schools and the rest of Division I — particularly in football.
The way I see it so far:

I still can’t determine if the roster changes are division wide or only for the schools opting-in. There are a lot of schools opting-out. Whatever the impacts there are two de facto divisions now: the current model and the settlement model.

Approximately 2.8 billion is to be paid to the NCAA over 10 years with 990 million coming from the FCS to be distributed to players on a player market value basis.

Rosters have changed and for the opt-ins they can pay 85 football players up to 20 million based on the 22% revenue sharing directive.

The opt-outs still raise money and distribute it under current rules.

It’s starting to appear to me the roster changes affect all schools. If that’s true the old distinction between FBS and FCS are gone. It’s now based on what a school can afford.

It’s wide open now but conferences can apparently put on some regulations as well.

Re: NDSU OPTS OUT?

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 2:08 am
by BisonOline
JBB2 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:34 am
BisonOline wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:06 am
JBB2 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:41 am Top level FBS is being deployed as a professional sport. College kids playing for the old Alma mater is a quant, old fashioned notion. It is pro ball now, disconnected from the universities primary function. It seems some college teams could compete in the NFL.

When it comes to football, the “OLD COLLEGE TRY” Just isn’t what it used to be.
Youve never been there so dont try to opine on it.
lol. The tragedy of the leather helmet. How many concussions did you have before you fell under the illusion you could police thought and speech.

You demonstrate pettiness in your posts. I think it’s a reflection of the NDSU administrations attitude.

Tell me what advantages does NDSU enjoy by opting-out?

Does opting-out relegate NDSU to the lower tier of college football.

By opting-out. Is D1AA ndsu, now FCS, in the equivalent of D3?

Thanks in advance for your congeniality.

Old worn out tropes from an old and worn out whack job is not surprising.

Re: NDSU OPTS OUT?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:31 pm
by JBB2
:lol:

opt-in or out no big deal. What’s ever best for coming year. It’s financing. NCAA and affiliates control the roster regulations. Unfortunately the revenue sharing concept appears damaging to the integrity of the “student/athlete”

NDSU is good at football. I’m confident they will keep a competitive roster and staff opting in or out.

Re: NDSU OPTS OUT?

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:04 pm
by JBB2
This just caught my eye. It’s a statement from the Tarleton Vice President and also AD about opting in and why:

Tarleton State opts in to NCAA’s proposed revenue sharing plan
"Tarleton State is committed to excellence in collegiate athletics, and this is further proof of that," Vice President and Director of Athletics Steve Uryasz said. "The future of college athletics is supporting student-athletes financially. Tarleton State has been and will continue to be student-athlete driven and committed to winning."
From Dec. Tarleton upgrades its schedule

Tarleton State Adds Army in 2025
December 19, 2024 by Fear The FCS


They are ready to go. They are actively pursuing FBS and have already had one round of “serious discussions with the MWC”.

Here’s a bit more on our new FCS rival from the old D2 days:
Simply put, Tarleton currently has the attendance, funding, and most of the infrastructure and facilities that would attract any FBS Group of Six conferences, and the Texans have a plan in place for the remaining infrastructure and facilities needed to move to FBS.

If attendance is your concern, Tarleton’s average of 18,697 fans in 2023 was the fifth-best in FCS and more than current Texas FBS schools UTEP (18,160), North Texas (17,761), and Sam Houston (8,298). What makes that attendance number impressive for the Texans is they attracted those fans to home games while still transitioning to Division I and weren’t eligible for the FCS playoffs.
Let’s get them on the schedule. USD beat them in the later playoff rounds this year by 10 I think. 🤔 Could be fun for Bison fans too. How about some more MWC games too?

Still looking for their stadium upgrades plan. They say they have the money and are ready to go.

Any given Saturday at Tarleton:
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Re: NDSU OPTS OUT?

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:12 am
by Lakesbison
now that settlement is reached today, NDSU has until July 1 to OPT IN and then BEG for a MWC or PAC 12 SPOT and get up to $20 million !!!

NDSU HAS TO DO THIS NOW!!!

Re: NDSU OPTS OUT?

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:06 pm
by EC8DCK
But I thought you "broke the news" that it NDSU was going to the Pac 12 3 days ago???

Re: NDSU OPTS OUT?

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 3:27 pm
by JBB2
EC8DCK wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:06 pm But I thought you "broke the news" that it NDSU was going to the Pac 12 3 days ago???
I don’t think they are going anywhere, but the PAC 12 and MWC seem to be the favorite picks.

Where do you think they are going? You seem agitated about the PAC 12 speculation so Im guessing it’s somewhere else?

Re: NDSU OPTS OUT?

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:00 pm
by JBB2
The conferences will regulate rosters within the limits established by the NCAA Settlement. The MVFC is working on roster sizes now. The distinction between FCS and FBS will be regulated at the conference level. The MVFC may be instrumental in creating the model for the rest of the division. Good chance the conference will maintain the current status quo. No chance it will be left up the schools with the only limits set by the agreement which I believe is 105 players and 20 million cap.

Restrictive regulation within the lower division pushed NDSU into FCS. Deja vu all over again?

Re: NDSU OPTS OUT?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 12:11 pm
by JBB2
2 minute read:

Twitter version:

do not opt-in

Full text:

As NDSU fans debate whether to pass their money on to the penalty fund and the settlement puts college sports firmly on a professional basis the entire future of higher education is being threatened.
The latest expert prognostication that I’ve seen was from a university professor of English complaining about students using AI to write their essays and professors using AI to grade them.
https://www.americanthinker.com/article ... iuses.html

If that’s the case, and with athletics going pro, what’s the point of a university?

Most in college don’t belong there in the first place. They belong back in the remedial schools lots of universities are setting up. By the time they are 15 most have learned all they can, or are willing in school. Not that schools teach much anymore, at 15 release anyone that wants to go to work and has command of the 3 R’s and can recite the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule

Read about Micro-schools a model for education that will restore love, compassion, family, community and God to education. This is a neighborhood model for educating children breaking away from the centralized, government controlled industrial style we are suffering with now.

College should no longer be a goal. Right now they are becoming glorified high schools. There is a place for universities but Most people don’t belong there. Colleges are for professional training and research. All else should be in the high schools.

I don’t believe NDSU should opt in. No one was exploited. All the tax payers of North Dakota did was provide them with opportunity. That penalty money should be retained by the University to support the opportunities now being offered. It shouldn’t be sent off as another “well-meaning” welfare payment.

My feeling is that those athletes should be the ones giving back. After all it was the combined resources of the community that gave them their opportunity. Most of us bought our educations, with our money which was used to give them their opportunity. If greed is the name of the game I want something back. My tuition dollars supported those athletes in many ways. Where’s the gratitude?